i read alot of people talking about there bans and just seeming brain dead. i use nl on a different profile to play hvh servers and rage however i use free accounts to play mm and have the one off hvh match, recently i will be VAC banned after i complete my 3 deathmatches to play comp. Really i just want to know what causes it, its just annoying me at this point.
And no i dont go obvious and get OW i get VAC and all i am using is skins. no legit no rage no walls just skins. previous i would get ow ban but that would be a hour or 2 after raging in a mm but the account would never get VAC.
Thanks for any replies
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I’m sorry to be the person to say this, but you probably shouldn’t expect a public cheat like Neverlose which is not well coded. The amount of cheats Neverlose has seemingly taken src from is probably a large factor in your accounts getting VAC detected when playing without -insecure.
If you have it, I’d obviously tell you to use Gamesense like I do for MM since it works around VAC instead of attempting to disable it, which NL might be attempting to do since they’ve allegedly merged gamesense.is, but again, it’s just not a well coded cheat.
But if you’re part of the large majority that doesn’t have it, some alternatives to Gamesense could be Onetap, since it also has an honestly surprisingly dedicated community behind it, along with the cheat being excellently optimized Another alternative is Aimware, but I honestly hate everything about Aimware since mid-v4.
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yeh id never go to aimware if im being honest lmao. but thank you for telling me i was just curious as to why. one thing that i question is my friend plays the same way as me using nl but still isnt banned. strange right. but oh well
Thank you for the reply 
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out of curiosity and the fact i know little to none when it comes to most cheats. Is primordial any good with mm or is that just as bad
Thanks
so i dont have gamesense. onetap is not a legit cheat its very very bad for legit. aimware nah that shit is detected like two of my prime accounts got banned from using it. now i use nl and i hope i dont get banned on my prime account, now thats its giving out vac. tho i dont have a red trust and i played for the past week
using aimware for legit & never got vac, never got vac with nl too.
it really doesn’t matter which rage cheat you use nowadays.
all will get you banned eventually.
also, skeet has had a ban wave just recently and also has been giving red trust in the past. 
red trust issue might have been fixed after enough reports but yet again it just got flagged again.
if you don’t want to get banned, don’t cheat.
if you still want to cheat but don’t care about rage features, go get an external legit provider.
they tend to have way less trust and overall detection issues. (dont @ me on that, might not age well)
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well you’ve answered all my questions which i appreciate. and after a closer look the ban says VAC due to an infraction by this or a linked account. So maybe i just need a fresh install of windows with nothing linked anymore. Might solve the insta ban issue. Thanks again!
reinstall windows ? lol
yeah, it seems all cheats are getting detected rn including skeet.
here’s a gamesense user’s account that got banned (F): Steam Community :: d*
its an overwatch ban. most of my friends accs who use nl are fine. 2 of them did get an overwatch ban though but that was most likely from them using legit aa and ragebot to hvh in mm. ive been using gs for the last month and still green trust.
its not ow the ban stays as VAC not like it changed and the reason stays the same. since i posted this ive used other cheats and been fine so im guessing its nl. maybe something is flagged for my system im not sure. but definitely not ow
on the account jepp linked. did u use ragebot / silent aim?
bro his inventory 
i mean thats what u get for trusting a cheat with ur account that has skins worth over 1000$ it just shows that skeet users are dumb i mean not everyone but bro just having skins and gs doesnt make it so that u have a free ban pass
Wasn’t my account, just found it linked in a banwave thread yesterday.
Fucking right? I thought the same exact thing lol
u using nl or gs?
NL, since I want to selfcode an actually good antiaim lua for this forum that isn’t pasted.
If you want to see more about my lua you can join the WIP community server for it here : nyanity
If you have enough money you can pay yourself free
but what is better gs or nl at the moment?